The Raven Council

Who is your character?
[Líonhéart level 90 human warrior, ilevel 515 dps re-spec'ing protection]

Who are you?
[Ace, 24, Glasgow Scotland]

Which of our two raid groups are you applying for?
[Joining any raid group available. Spoke to Admiralek and discussed possible position for me as dps within his group.]

Raid role
[I am always dps but with low damage at time though high survivability. When I do a raid I will focus on my objective for the boss more then my dmg. I avoid being a dps that brags a nice damage but consistantly dies causing a overall loss in dps. Or if received CR then loses potential CR for healers or tank. I play it safe, study, focus and consistant. My preperation for raid normaly consists of having a smoke "before!" and a drink by my side.]

Experience
[I have done all my ToT and SoO lfr raids for the week. The biggest annoyance for me with lfr is the immature attitude people come into those raids with. One persons under-enthusiam or disregard causing 24 other people problems. That kind of selfish behaviour wanted me to join a real guild with a mature raiding team that understands its a team effort.]

Off-specs and Alternative characters
[I hope to start as a dps within the guild and move towards being a pro tank in my off-spec. I am also growing tired of my warriors limited capability with his burst damage(i prefer consistantly strong damage). So I am working on both a Hunter and a Druid. Finding which one serves me best I hope to later introduce one of these to the guild at a later point.]

Communication
[I have already installed "mumble" as to Admiraleks reccomendation and have tp3 and skype.]

World of Logs stuff
[I have only recently downloaded skada and have done all my raids for the week. So my log is unforunately not available.]

Guild History
[My first guild was Carnage Kings, in which i was much loved but found myself kicked because my language was apperently poor. In my defence to this, My language may consist of rude words like "oh frog, ah poo, frog sake" But they were and are never aimed towards anyone, especially guild mates. Carnage Kings defended this by saying "kids younger then 12 play this game thats why we do not allow that language" to which I replied "Then those kids who are under the age certification for this game and have to tolerate that language in Bgs,raids or even simply being within the game are aware and shouldn't be playing the game." Being scottish I have a mature love for adult words such as "frog, poo, bollocks, etc" Being mature is knowing how to use that language and when.]

Raid availability
[Aside from college times I can make raids just fine. I have a social life but I am good at time management.]

References
[I wanted to join a mature guild so I googled up top raiding guild for defias brotherhood. The Raven Council was the only guild I liked the sound of in that list.]

About you
[I'm lovable and loyal. I am kind and good spirited. I treat all people fairly because I am a person that has faced much in my 24 years so am wiser then my age would suggest. I like all music but mostly rock and acustic. I'm easy to love when treated like an equal. Difficult to understand when treated as anything less.]

Miscellaneous
[I'm looking forward to getting along with everyone. If there are any anime fans within the guild then I am sure to get alone with them too.]

p.s

"One does not simply" fill-out such a long application form.

Thanks for your application. Please, give us some time to review it.

Based on your story about Carnage Kings we are a bit concerned you might not be the recruit we are looking for. Similarly to Carnage Kings, using harsh language on our guild chat is also frowned upon.

As you already know from Zarell and/or Adrimalek, currently we don't have a regular raiding spot for you in our raiding teams, but if I understand correctly you are fine to be reserve for RG2.

Even if not every officer supports the idea of accepting your application, you got the required three votes. Keep in mind however, that this is a trial membership only.

Please whisper an officer for an invite.

I appreciate that three officers have voted me in and that my application has been accepted. Honestly I was very nervous about the whole process and am very glad to be accepted.
I admire the guilds achievements and mature attitude so much so that I've been overly excited as to when I would be able to become part of the group.

However just tonight before finding this reply I had been invited to "Exploding Sheep Inc". In their I have found two old friends and a warm relaxed enviroment where I can be myself without worries and am accepted for who I am. They also run a tight ship having a certain ilevel for raid requirements and etc, but the atmosphere seems much more lose then..
Well I saw Satina's recruitment application and in no offence to her but if somebody with a child-like attitude gets an immediate invite while my honest and formal application is taken with a pinch of salt and I recieve a "trial recruitment", then the atmosphere I'd be joining in seems much more rigid for me in "The Raven Council".

Joining "The Raven Council" would be like taking on a job it seems. To have to speak formally and obide by certain mannerisims. Which I completely understand and am not saying is bad at all. But would I be able to call that kind of guild a home? A place where I make friends? Friends accept you as you are, that is the basis of friendship. What I intentionaly did not care to mention was that the real reason I got kicked from Carnage Kings was because the guild leader favoured girls. His female officer pushed around her authority like a spoilt child knowing she could have and be as whatever she wanted. The guild leader Hurnz apologised for kicking me before and after doing so and mentioned how he would miss not having me around.

The Raven Council is truly a wonderful guild in which I could achieve much in without worries. But I am not prepared to leave a guild I am very comfortable in right now on a chance that I might have to experience getting kicked from one of the most admired guilds on defias brotherhood. I would very much like it if you could extend the trial recruitment to my alt hunter as a social member so as we may both find how I suit for the guild and the guild suits me before making any final decisions.

Thank you
Ace

Judging people by written applications is really unfair. Some do it playfully, some play it cool. And some are honest. And I certainly don't want to punish the honest ones. In many cases you cannot even evaluate what is written, only how it is written. This is the reason for the trial rank. EVERY new recruit gets the trial rank first and later they are promoted to Ravens, during a guild meeting.

Just want to clarify that swearing on guild chat is not something we don't see in TRC. But since you mentioned it in your application, I wanted to let you know our stance on that. I understand that some... cultures (?) might use harsh words more often than others, but it always tricky with written text (like guild chat): until you get to know someone, it's hard to distinguish between the playful fuckyou, the Imma-cool-teenager fuckyou and the angry fuckyou. Oh and then there is the scottish fuckyou... Damn, I just used "fuckyou" four times while preaching about proper language. >.< Five times now.

Also there is nothing wrong with joining on another character, many people send a scout to a guild before joining on main. The only difference is that some don't say it directly. Similarly as we give a trial membership for the new guys, they put us on trial as well - this goes both ways. When (fresh) guildies ask me if they can bring their other character(s) to the guild, I know we passed their trial.

I can't wait to join.

I think I will join on my Druid instead. Being able to offer a class that is very diverse I feel would be better than a simple dps class. And also this way I can level my standing with guild much faster. And because druids can turn to birds it seems to fit well with The "Raven" Council haha ^^

I might need some "Council"ing on how to build a good druid though lol

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